KJV: But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
YLT: and if ye are apart from chastening, of which all have become partakers, then bastards are ye, and not sons.
Darby: But if ye are without chastening, of which all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
ASV: But if ye are without chastening, whereof all have been made partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
| δὲ | however |
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Parse: Conjunction Root: δέ Sense: but, moreover, and, etc. |
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| χωρίς | without |
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Parse: Preposition Root: χωρίς Sense: separate, apart. |
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| ἐστε | you are |
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Parse: Verb, Present Indicative Active, 2nd Person Plural Root: εἰμί Sense: to be, to exist, to happen, to be present. |
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| παιδείας | of discipline |
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Parse: Noun, Genitive Feminine Singular Root: παιδεία Sense: the whole training and education of children (which relates to the cultivation of mind and morals, and employs for this purpose now commands and admonitions, now reproof and punishment) It also includes the training and care of the body. |
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| ἧς | of which |
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Parse: Personal / Relative Pronoun, Genitive Feminine Singular Root: ὅς Sense: who, which, what, that. |
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| μέτοχοι | partakers |
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Parse: Adjective, Nominative Masculine Plural Root: μέτοχος Sense: sharing in, partaking. |
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| γεγόνασιν | they have become |
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Parse: Verb, Perfect Indicative Active, 3rd Person Plural Root: γίνομαι Sense: to become, i. |
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| νόθοι | illegitimate children |
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Parse: Adjective, Nominative Masculine Plural Root: νόθος Sense: illegitimate, bastard. |
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| υἱοί | sons |
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Parse: Noun, Nominative Masculine Plural Root: υἱός Sense: a son. |
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Greek Commentary for Hebrews 12:8
Condition of first class, determined as fulfilled. Note position of εστε este (are) between the preposition χωρις chōris and παιδειας paideias (ablative case). Have been made Perfect active indicative of γινομαι ginomai Partakers Partners (Hebrews 3:14). Then Accordingly, correspondingly. Bastards Old word, here only in N.T. Illegitimate. [source]
Rend. “of which all have been made partakers.” For μέτοχοι partakerssee on Hebrews 3:14. All, that is, all sons of God. [source]
N.T.oSee Wisd. 4:3. They might think that they would not suffer if they were really God's sons; whereas the reverse is the case. If they did not suffer, they would not be God's sons. [source]
Reverse Greek Commentary Search for Hebrews 12:8
This word μετοχος metochos from μετεχω metechō to have with, means participation with one in common blessings (Hebrews 3:1, Hebrews 3:14; Hebrews 6:4; Hebrews 12:8). While κοινωνος koinōnos (Luke 5:10 here of James and John also) has the notion of personal fellowship, partnership. Both terms are here employed of the two pairs of brothers who have a business company under Simon‘s lead.Help them (συλλαβεσται sullabesthai). Second aorist middle infinitive. Take hold together with and so to help. Paul uses it in Philemon 4:3. It is an old word that was sometimes employed for seizing a prisoner (Luke 22:54) and for conception (con-capio) by a woman (Luke 1:24).So that they began to sink Consecutive use of ωστε hōste and the infinitive (present tense, inchoative use, beginning to sink). An old verb from βυτος buthos In the N.T. only here and 1 Timothy 6:9. [source]
Only here in N.T., for αγιοις hagiois in 1 Thessalonians 5:27 only in late MSS. See Hebrews 2:11 for same idea. First time the author makes direct appeal to the readers, though first person in Hebrews 2:1. Partakers See Luke 5:7 for “partners” in the fishing, elsewhere in N.T. only in Hebrews (Hebrews 1:9; Hebrews 6:4; Hebrews 12:8) in N.T. Of a heavenly calling Only here in the N.T., though same idea in Hebrews 9:15. See η ανω κλησις hē anō klēsis in Philemon 3:14 (the upward calling). The call comes from heaven and is to heaven in its appeal. Consider First aorist active imperative of κατανοεω katanoeō old compound verb No “even” in the Greek, just like the idiom in Hebrews 2:9, the human name held up with pride. The Apostle and High Priest of our confession (Ιησουν ton apostolon kai archierea tēs homologias hēmōn). In descriptive apposition with τον Iēsoun and note the single article αποστολος ton This is the only time in the N.T. that Jesus is called αποστελλω apostolos though he often used απεστειλας apostellō of God‘s sending him forth as in John 17:3 (αποστολος apesteilas). This verb is used of Moses as sent by God (Exodus 3:10). Moffatt notes that πρεσβευτης apostolos is Ionic for ομολογια presbeutēs “not a mere envoy, but an ambassador or representative sent with powers.” The author has already termed Jesus high priest (Hebrews 2:17). For ομολογεω homologia (confession) see 2 Corinthians 9:13; 1 Timothy 6:12. These Hebrew Christians had confessed Jesus as their Apostle and High Priest. They do not begin to understand what Jesus is and means if they are tempted to give him up. The word runs through Hebrews with an urgent note for fidelity (Hebrews 4:14; Hebrews 10:23). See ομον homologeō (λεγω homon same, legō say), to say the same thing, to agree, to confess, to profess. [source]
See Luke 5:7 for “partners” in the fishing, elsewhere in N.T. only in Hebrews (Hebrews 1:9; Hebrews 6:4; Hebrews 12:8) in N.T. Of a heavenly calling Only here in the N.T., though same idea in Hebrews 9:15. See η ανω κλησις hē anō klēsis in Philemon 3:14 (the upward calling). The call comes from heaven and is to heaven in its appeal. Consider First aorist active imperative of κατανοεω katanoeō old compound verb No “even” in the Greek, just like the idiom in Hebrews 2:9, the human name held up with pride. The Apostle and High Priest of our confession (Ιησουν ton apostolon kai archierea tēs homologias hēmōn). In descriptive apposition with τον Iēsoun and note the single article αποστολος ton This is the only time in the N.T. that Jesus is called αποστελλω apostolos though he often used απεστειλας apostellō of God‘s sending him forth as in John 17:3 (αποστολος apesteilas). This verb is used of Moses as sent by God (Exodus 3:10). Moffatt notes that πρεσβευτης apostolos is Ionic for ομολογια presbeutēs “not a mere envoy, but an ambassador or representative sent with powers.” The author has already termed Jesus high priest (Hebrews 2:17). For ομολογεω homologia (confession) see 2 Corinthians 9:13; 1 Timothy 6:12. These Hebrew Christians had confessed Jesus as their Apostle and High Priest. They do not begin to understand what Jesus is and means if they are tempted to give him up. The word runs through Hebrews with an urgent note for fidelity (Hebrews 4:14; Hebrews 10:23). See ομον homologeō (λεγω homon same, legō say), to say the same thing, to agree, to confess, to profess. [source]